Best fountain solution for reduced or free ipa

RSPRINT

Hello, i would like you to advise me of a fountain soltion that works well to reduce or eliminate alcohol. now i am using Alcolan XL 47.5 of Eggen.

Thank you very much

Regards Jose

HQ_seppel

Hi Jose,

why would you change ist? Alcolan XL 47.5 can be used 0-5% IPA.

Have you tryed it?

We tested some fountains in the last 15 years. Alcolan XL ist on of the best for us (confentinonal offset 3% IPA). (the second Druckchemie Alkoless)

Sincerely

Sebastian

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I have also used substifix and I like this one better, but it makes me framing and leaves more paper deposit and it makes me more foam

HQ_seppel

We used substifix in the past, for a few years, but changened couse the problems you desciped.

The framing was very pronounced and the printoperators angry about it!

RSPRINT

Has anyone tried Alcolan Xl 47.12?

What is the difference between Alcolan Xl 47.5?

Thanks

HQ_seppel

I think one is for harder, one for softer Water...

We have soft - very soft Water (no water tratment) and use. 47.12

But no one can recommend an optimal water supplement for you. There are too many variables for that. Such as: rubber blanket, water, color, printing plate, ink rollers, set temperatures, material used, the operator...

We have had similar good experiences with fountain solution additives from Druckchemie.

karsten1077

RSPRINT where are you from? Don't you have a Eggen guy in your area? What are your problems, why do you wanna change?

RSPRINT

Zitat von HQ_seppel

I think one is for harder, one for softer Water...
We have soft - very soft Water (no water tratment) and use. 47.12

But no one can recommend an optimal water supplement for you. There are too many variables for that. Such as: rubber blanket, water, color, printing plate, ink rollers, set temperatures, material used, the operator...
We have had similar good experiences with fountain solution additives from Druckchemie.

Thank you for your information, I am going to try Alcolan Xl 47.12,

Jakob

Hallo zusammen

Alcolan XL 47.12 ist für DOP Platten optimiert. Mit hartem und weichem Wasser hat dies nichts zu tun.
So sind jedenfalls meine Infos.
Wer mit DOP Platten arbeitet, dem empfehle ich den Wechsel von XL47.5 zu XL47.12.
Der Zusatz ist sehr empfehlenswert.

Gruss Jakob

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Zitat von karsten1077

RSPRINT where are you from? Don't you have a Eggen guy in your area? What are your problems, why do you wanna change?

Hello Karsten1077, I´m from Spain, and there is no technician of Eggen in my area, i buy this fountain solution to Martinez Ayala inks.My problen with 47.5 are so much framing, and some instability in the water relationship, i don´t want to hange i want to find if it possible the best fountain solution from my print machine.

thank you for your help

RSPRINT

We have a Mitsubishi V3000 75x105 5 prints units and coated tower

Water is an osmosis water 350-400 micro siemens (whit rehardener)

RSPRINT

Zitat von HQ_seppel

Hi Jose,
why would you change ist? Alcolan XL 47.5 can be used 0-5% IPA.
Have you tryed it?
We tested some fountains in the last 15 years. Alcolan XL ist on of the best for us (confentinonal offset 3% IPA). (the second Druckchemie Alkoless)
Sincerely
Sebastian

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Sorry, i am thinking to trying Alkoless of Druckchemie, What is the difference between Alcoless and Alcolan 47.5??

Have you seen any problem in Alkoless?

Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience.

RSPRINT

Hello, Is anyone working with Alcolan NV 50.1 (of Eggen) additive?

If someone is working or has worked in the past with this additive, Can you tell me What is your opinion about this additive?

Thank very much.